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  My daughter surprised me last night.

  by Driving Force in

  1. watchtower
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  i started my fade a the beginning of 2015, took counseling form a psychiatrist, and worked hard to get my family away from the cult.

  my marriage split and i now live alone with my 15 year old daughter.. she came to me last night and we started talking about jws.

  she told me that the subject they are discussing at the moment in philosophy is "cults".

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  Driving Force

  Xanthippe

  She saw the video at the convention in summer.
  
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  My daughter surprised me last night.

  by Driving Force in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i started my fade a the beginning of 2015, took counseling form a psychiatrist, and worked hard to get my family away from the cult.

  my marriage split and i now live alone with my 15 year old daughter.. she came to me last night and we started talking about jws.

  she told me that the subject they are discussing at the moment in philosophy is "cults".

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  vivalavida

  I am sorry about your son. I listed much of what I did to help my daughter in the following thread

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5952629737783296/may-have-go-back

  Maybe this can help you with your son.

  DF
  
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  My daughter surprised me last night.

  by Driving Force in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i started my fade a the beginning of 2015, took counseling form a psychiatrist, and worked hard to get my family away from the cult.

  my marriage split and i now live alone with my 15 year old daughter.. she came to me last night and we started talking about jws.

  she told me that the subject they are discussing at the moment in philosophy is "cults".

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  Driving Force

  I started my fade a the beginning of 2015, took counseling form a psychiatrist, and worked hard to get my family away from the cult. My marriage split and I now live alone with my 15 year old daughter.

  She came to me last night and we started talking about JWs. She told me that the subject they are discussing at the moment in philosophy is "Cults". The kids were given a handout on how to identify a cult, she read the list to me and with every point she looked at me and said "That fits JWs".

  She does not want anything to do with the cult, but never wanted me to talk about TTATT, so I never did, until last night. She asked very specific questions, which I answered. We talked about the money grab and the financing of the cult, and she then encouraged me to watch the "Ice-cream" video released at the convention this year. This is what really surprised me, although she has never been on any kind of forum discussing JWs or talked TTATT with anyone but me, she said that the GB are trying to get the ice-cream money from the kids, and I should watch the video.

  I am really proud of my daughter.

  I am sure there are many kids out there who have come to the same conclusion, but are trapped any cannot or are afraid to say anything.
  
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  How did you feel when you found out "the truth about the truth"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so when you first found out specific facts about the organisation, how did you feel??.

  the un membership.

  the way 1914 was calculated from pyramid measurements.

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  Driving Force

  I felt very betrayed and I felt like a fool. I was very sad and I cried like a small child after realizing how much of my life (29 years) I wasted on this cult.
  

  How could I have believed that for so long, just like LITS I kept the blinders on like I was told to.

  Now the blinders are gone, the amount of lies and hypocracy is incredibly. And it makes me sad to see how many people are being misled. It cost me my marriage. I am out of it now and my daughter is out with me.
  
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  I just heard something that disturbed me. A youth has to fill out a form from the bOrg that he wants to be an unbaptized publisher.

  by Driving Force in

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  this is in germany.. is this something new?

  has anybody else heard this that somebody wanting to be an unbaptised publisher needs to fill-out a form from the borg.. i have not seen the form..

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  fastJehu

  No, this was not the S-21 form, it must be something else.
  
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  I just heard something that disturbed me. A youth has to fill out a form from the bOrg that he wants to be an unbaptized publisher.

  by Driving Force in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is in germany.. is this something new?

  has anybody else heard this that somebody wanting to be an unbaptised publisher needs to fill-out a form from the borg.. i have not seen the form..

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  fukitol.

  The one sentence you made really defines your idiocy.

  1. You assumed I am German, I am not.

  2. "..in his country", its not my country.

  3.".. a club", no it is not, it is a dangerous cult.

  4. Your ignorance belies the fact that the JW organization is very dangerous and the younger they get them, the more harm this does to the person. The many testimonies on this site alone, the reporting of shunning, pedophiles, the suicides, etc. is obviously something that does not concern you by you making thoughtless insulting comments.

  lets review
  

  fukitol is an idiot.
  
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  I just heard something that disturbed me. A youth has to fill out a form from the bOrg that he wants to be an unbaptized publisher.

  by Driving Force in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is in germany.. is this something new?

  has anybody else heard this that somebody wanting to be an unbaptised publisher needs to fill-out a form from the borg.. i have not seen the form..

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  Driving Force

  This is in Germany.

  Is this something new? Has anybody else heard this that somebody wanting to be an unbaptised publisher needs to fill-out a form from the bOrg.

  I have not seen the form.
  
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  Muslims vs. JWs as friends

  by Driving Force in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is not meant to be a controversial discussion, but just mentioning what has happened to my daughter.. i personally started my fade early this year 2015, it has resulted in my losing all my so called jw friends and the brake-up of my marriage.

  when i split up with my wife, she asked our daughter who she would like to live with, my daughter decided to live with me, and also abandoned the cult.. recently my daughter told me that she is very disappointed with the congregation of jehovah's witnesses because she thought she had friends there, but now she has realized that it was all conditional, not a single one of them has even remotely tried to keep contact with my daughter, she is 15, not baptized and never a publisher.. now yesterday she met up with a jehovah's witness friend who is in another congregation.

  this friend is also 15, baptized since she was 14, a very dominant elder father, and has virtually no association outside jw circles, and also internet access is banned at home.

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  Smiddy

  I guess you summed it up correctly, a really disgusting cult.
  
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  Muslims vs. JWs as friends

  by Driving Force in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is not meant to be a controversial discussion, but just mentioning what has happened to my daughter.. i personally started my fade early this year 2015, it has resulted in my losing all my so called jw friends and the brake-up of my marriage.

  when i split up with my wife, she asked our daughter who she would like to live with, my daughter decided to live with me, and also abandoned the cult.. recently my daughter told me that she is very disappointed with the congregation of jehovah's witnesses because she thought she had friends there, but now she has realized that it was all conditional, not a single one of them has even remotely tried to keep contact with my daughter, she is 15, not baptized and never a publisher.. now yesterday she met up with a jehovah's witness friend who is in another congregation.

  this friend is also 15, baptized since she was 14, a very dominant elder father, and has virtually no association outside jw circles, and also internet access is banned at home.

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  Driving Force

  My daughter's (ex)JW friend is very upset and has cried a great deal since ending the friendship with my daughter, (info form my wife, who is still in but we are separated). My daughter has coped quite well, I am helping her to build a social support network after the witnesses, and is working well. Also my daughter has assured the friendship with the JW that my daughter will be there for her if she is needed.
  That has added to the misery, not for my daughter, maybe this heart-breaking will nudge her a little towards the exit.

  Bad Association .

  I love being Bad Association for JWs.
  
  
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  Muslims vs. JWs as friends

  by Driving Force in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is not meant to be a controversial discussion, but just mentioning what has happened to my daughter.. i personally started my fade early this year 2015, it has resulted in my losing all my so called jw friends and the brake-up of my marriage.

  when i split up with my wife, she asked our daughter who she would like to live with, my daughter decided to live with me, and also abandoned the cult.. recently my daughter told me that she is very disappointed with the congregation of jehovah's witnesses because she thought she had friends there, but now she has realized that it was all conditional, not a single one of them has even remotely tried to keep contact with my daughter, she is 15, not baptized and never a publisher.. now yesterday she met up with a jehovah's witness friend who is in another congregation.

  this friend is also 15, baptized since she was 14, a very dominant elder father, and has virtually no association outside jw circles, and also internet access is banned at home.

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  jhine

  They are all lumped together, which makes them all better than JWs.

  Smiddy

  They do shun non-witnesses, as with my daughter, and I agree they are hypocritical. To think i was one of them for so long, I feel ashamed.

  Sabin

  I have encouraged my daughter to let this girl know that the friendship and love my daughter has for her is still there, and that the friendship can always be restarted. I also know this girl and her father and mother, they are very dominant and decide everything for their girl, and I am sure that this girl was not behind this decision. At some point she will (I hope) brake away and my daughter will be there for her, as a true friend should be.